Just a follow-up to the Ford ESP discussion earlier in this thread...
I am coming up on my first oil change at 5000 miles and wanted to make a decision on ESP. I was talking with a friend who has a "deluxe" maintenance plan w/oil changes built into the lease of his Honda minivan (remarkably the Honda dealer is the owner who bought out my Ford dealer in 2015) and thought this might be something to consider with this new PS 3.0L Diesel engine.
mentioned this FloodESP
website which claims to sell certified Ford ESPs that are valid at any North American Ford dealer at prices significantly cheaper than what your dealer will quote you during the F&I process
- They have pricing quote charts available if you plug in your vehicle info
- They also have the Ford Protect ESP brochures available online
- Unsure how/why Ford Corporate allows this (but I am not complaining now as it allows you to see what the mark-up is)
From the FloodESP website, I also noticed Ford offers an additional maintenance contract top of the Ford ESP that covers all fluids & filters as per maintenance schedule:
- Oil and filters (5000/7500/10000 mile interval as options)
- DEF (Diesel Exhaust Fluid every 5,000 miles)
- Fuel filters (every 30,000 miles)
- Air filters (every 30,000 miles)
- Cabin filter (every 20,000 miles)
- Coolant flush/fill (100,000 miles)
- Windshield Washer Fluid
I have a pretty good relationship with my dealership/Service Manager and told him what I wanted:
- Ford Protect only plans, specifically:
- Ford Protect PremiumCare ESP
- Ford Protect Premium Maintenance Plan ESP
= not any 3rd party extended warrantees their dealership normally pushes as part of F&I process
- 8-year/100K option for both plans (don't expect to put more than 10K miles per year)
- $0 deductible for Ford Protect PremiumCare ESP
- Ford Motorcraft F150 Full Synthetic 5W-30 (XO5W30QFA) oil changes at 5000 mile intervals for the Ford Protect Premium Maintenance Plan ESP
- Willing to pay a fair price but not pay for any built-in dealer mark-up on the price for these plans
- Use the FloodESP website to compare/challenge any quotes you receive (as
- Would prefer to deal with my local dealer than FloodESP
= Giving my local dealer an opportunity to win my business
I left the dealership and got a call back within 30 minutes with price quotes for what I wanted and what would not be covered.
- What exactly is covered is in the Premium Maintenance Plan link above = Pretty much everything
- What's not covered?
+ Brake rotors
While I won't go into exact pricing details here (as there are lots of combinations based on months/miles/intervals/deductibles), I will tell you what I learned:
- For the Ford Protect PremiumCare ESP, my dealer got pretty close to the Ford PremiumCare quote from the FloodESP website
- For the Ford Protect Premium Maintenance Plan ESP, my dealer didn't get close but this is probably due to my Full Synthetic Oil requirement
- I was able to take advantage of the 0% financing offer for ESP contracts after purchase that
Here is something I just noticed from the PremiumCARE ESP online brochure: "0% APR interest-free Installment Payment Plan with flexible payment options is available when the extended service plan is not included in the vehicle financing", so though to make everyone aware of this.
BUT there is a significant fee that the dealer incurs from the company (Budco Financial) underwriting the Installment plan (Don't ask me how I know this!
I realize that these options may not be financially viable for everyone, but my situation allowed me to splurge on this luxury = let the flaming begin!
Lessons to be learned:
- There is mark-up built into the pricing of both plans that your dealer may or may not be willing to negotiate
- You won't know until you ask for a quote and counter with the pricing from the FloodESP website to find out
Anyone who has questions on either of these plans or what I did when purchasing mine, please Private Message me via this forum to discuss.
for this insight, as it did save me a significant amount, so much so that I may have never pulled the trigger on either of these ESPs.
I do not work for Ford nor do I get any form of compensation for promoting either of these plans