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post #1 of 6 (permalink) Old Yesterday, 09:19 PM Thread Starter
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Oil change via top-side extractor?

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New to the forum, and to the F-150. Recently purchased a 2018 w/ the 3.0 powerstroke. Not new to diesels but my experience has mostly been VW TDIs. VW indicates topside oil changes for the newer TDIs using an extractor. Its clean, fast, and does a really great job of sucking all the gunk out, better even I think than a traditional gravity oil change. Filters are canister-type and located as to be accessed easily from under the hood looking down.

My question then is this: the way that the 3.0 is set up, it seems like it is BEGGING for a topside oil change, almost as if some engineer designed it that way. Furthermore, all the stuff I've seen on DIY oil changes makes it seem like a PITA to get done in the traditional manner. Anyone know of any good reason that you COULDN'T change the oil with an extractor? Or better yet: has anyone tried this method? If its explicitly cautioned against, then the good ol' fashioned way it is I guess.

Cross-posted this on F150forum, hope that doesn't tick anyone off... I can't quite figure which site has the best platform support yet so I guess I'll just try both haha

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@seallworth - Welcome to our little club and congrats on your 2018 F150 PowerStroke purchase!

For any new members purchasing a 2018 model (new or used), I point them at the START HERE: Any owners affected by FSA 18E02 (EGR By-pass valve replacement) thread to ensure that FSA 18E02 has been performed.

Good question on the top-side oil change! Not sure what Ford's official position is -- I don't have one as my Ford dealer handles all of my oil changes under an Extended Maintenance plan, but I am sure other will chime in with their knowledge and opinions...

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I did the extractor method on my first oil change only to discover it didnít remove all the oil, (almost two quarts) from the pan. It seems there might be some kind of baffle or screen that limits access to the lower part of the oil pan by way of the dipstick tube. Did my second oil change the traditional way on ramps and pulling the drain plug, was very easy to do.
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I have done about 4 changes on a 3.0. Not too bad really. I can do it without spilling a drop usually, which I can't do with my 5.0 V8. I have heard some of the new auto start stop engines don't have a clear path to the oil sump and they can't be siphoned, not sure about the 3.0.

I did as suggested by someone earlier- drill a large hole in the "diaper" so you can access the drain plug without removing the diaper. Easy peasy.

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@Silver Super D
Solid take. This is exactly what I was afraid of. Looks like I'll be underneath the truck then.

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@seallworth - from Page 18 of the 3.0L Ford F-150 Diesel Coffee Table Book it looks there is a serious baffle to get around (see attached pics) hence why @Silver Super D was prevented from extracting everything in the pan....

The description next to the pictures specifically mention this baffle:
Oil Pan: The oil pan is the reservoir for the engine oil. It incorporates a baffle to keep the engine oil from splashing which prevents aeration and foaming.
Others have gone the Fumoto F107 route discussed in this thread: Engine Oil Drain Plug
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