Diesel F150 Forum banner

1200kms....Check Engine(emmisions)?

1985 Views 13 Replies 4 Participants Last post by  350 Mag
Wife was on first trip...

Engine light came on 300 kms into trip....1200 kms on truck.

Not a good sign of things to come?

Feeling pretty disgusted!!!(especially since salesmen said NON have come back to dealership).....bald faced lie???

1 - 14 of 14 Posts
It may be something simple. What truck do you have and which engine? (I assume 3.0 diesel but you never know). Are you able to pull codes and if so what are they? Hope it works out fine for you.
It's 2019 diesel....it's @ dealership.
Wow! Based on my grade-school math, 1200 kms ~= 750 miles? Were the any messages in the IPC beyond the Check Engine icon? I see Emissions in the title, so I am assuming that was the message in the IPC? Picture?

Pretty poor new ownership experience = please post back with what the dealer finds...
Just check engine light....

The only thing wife did was filled up at station with underground tanks....

I told her to use station with above ground tanks.
90% of the miles were highway?

How/Why could a DPF be plugged that quick?

Or was there a recall that this dealer ignored?

The reason for buying a NEW truck is reliability and warranty....guess those days are gone forever?

Truck is even 2 weeks old!!!
Like @Dunrollin said, it might be something simple or could be something serious, which is why he asked for codes.

I agree 100% with you that this should not happen on a brand new vehicle with less than 1000 miles on it, but there is no manufacturer that has ever built a car with no ownership issues, and besides your inconvenience, your dealer (or any dealer) should resolve for you. Your only recourse may be to slam Ford in your new owner survey if you haven't submitted that already.

A lot of the 2018 model year owners were impacted by the Infamous EGR By-pass valve screw(s) falling out and getting sucked into the engine -- you can read the horror stories here: START HERE: Any owners affected by FSA 18E02 (EGR By-pass valve replacement)

The amount of data/information available via FORScan is amazing and daunting. I strongly recommend owners invest in a OBDii adapter (can get USB cable version for less than $50) and FORScan software. In addition to using FORScan programming for changing factory defaults (see my signature), you can also use FORScan for monitoring and diagnostics. I carry a wireless OBDii adapter in my car and can use my iPhone for monitoring and viewing diagnostics (OBD codes) so I can get some insight to at least what is going on.

These trucks (and most new vehicles) are black boxes with lots of independent systems and without FORScan, you are beholden to your dealership to diagnose any issues. I also use the diagnostics to keep my dealership's Service Department honest and they look at me sideways when I drop my truck off for service and tell them they need to fix codes; e.g. FORScan code B148E - Front Camera

Out of all of the toys and add-ons I have bought for my F150s, my wireless OBDLink MX+ adapter ($79) and a lifettime FORScan license ($49) and probably the best investment I have made. If you are interested, you can read up here in this thread I created for new users: START HERE: New FORScan user education

Please post back with any codes from your Service RO (Repair Order) as it helps us build an owner knowledge base here where we might be able to help others diagnose the same code and how to handle getting it resolved.
See less See more
Its not so much that the truck has issues it's the dozens of people that told me I was nuts for buying a diesel....lol....now IF they find out it **** the bed on me I will never hear the end of it....that and buying a Ford....

Honestly I like the truck so far and was getting better than 30mpg(Metric) on highway....

I will change this DPF and IF anything else goes on emissions I will be getting a DOF delete and tune from AMDP.

Wait and see....
What are the engine hours? There's a chance that the truck spent a fair amount of time idling and being moved around the lot before you took ownership.
It obviously sucks you had issues but at least it's warranty and free of charge to fix.
I almost suspect it wasn't going into "Regen" mode?

Isn't the ECM supposed to detect through pressure sensors when DPF is getting restricted and do Regen burn to clean it?
@350 Mag - yes, that is exactly how the system is supposed to work.
=> Expect 125-150 miles between regens for local city driving (assumes complete regen back to 0%)
=> Up to a max of 300 miles between regens if all you do is highway mileage

Ford decided to bury when your truck is in regen from the end user and your average mileage between regens.

Your active regen state, DPF Full %, average mileage between regens (green), mileage between last 5 regens (aqua), and mileage when DPF Full vs Over Limit (yellow) can be exposed via FORScan programming & monitoring:

The other DPF related PIDs not highlighted are the sensors/measures that are used to help determine when the DPF is full and to trigger an Active Regen if other conditions are met; e.g. EGTs (Exhaust Gas Temperatures above 580F)

The following FORScan monitoring display shows an Active Regen in progress:


Above is a screen capture of my best distance between regens ever, where I did a bunch of back-to-back highway trips and hit the 300 mile max on 3 of my last 5 regens. You can see here how the DPF_REGEN_% (1st column of 2nd row) is at 100% and all four (4) EGTs (Exhaust Gas Temperatures in bottom row) are near over 1000F -- this is indicative of an Active Regen in progress where the ECM dumps additional fuel after the exhaust cycle to raise the temperature of the DPF to burn off all of the diesel particulates accumulated in the DPF.

Because Ford buries all of this information, you as an owner are "driving blind" and have no idea when your truck in in Active Regen or if you have successfully completed a full Regen back down to 0% Full. All of the above is what I call the dirty & secret side of diesel vehicle ownership with all of these new emissions systems.

Good news if that you are doing primarily highway driving, so you shouldn't have any issues with DPF regen cycles if your DPF and SCR emission systems are working as designed. I worry about to those owners who do primarily city driving (like me!) and aren't actively managing their active regens via FORScan, as these are the trucks I expect to have DPF plugging issues at some point earlier than the owner expects....
See less See more
Good information, thanks and a Happy 4th of July! I am one of those mostly city drivers and the dpf fills up real fast some times, it is a little scary. Sure wish there was a way to install a switch to turn regen on when I am just running around.
So had the truck back for a couple weeks.

No more issues.

DEF is down below 50% so it's definitely going through "Regen".

67 hours.(,15 hours @ idle)

3600 kms.

I am assuming that because it was 1 year old model. It was left idling to warm up for test drives?

15 hours idling.

Truck only had 28 kms on it when I bought it.

Hopefully no more issues.
See less See more
1 - 14 of 14 Posts
This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old thread. Please consider creating a new thread.