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Ford has often been at the top of the truck game but they allowed RAM to get away at being the first to launch a light-duty diesel, which seems to be selling well enough, but as we get closer to the F150 Diesel launch how do you guys think this diesel will perform in terms of sales and in the hands of consumers... compared to the opposition?
 

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The F-series has dominated sales for so long, I'm pretty sure that when the diesel option comes out, it'll take the crown back no problem.
 

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The F-series has dominated sales for so long, I'm pretty sure that when the diesel option comes out, it'll take the crown back no problem.
Figured that much.

It almost seems like everyone is too scared to buy anything from Nissan or RAM, just sitting on the sidelines waiting for Ford to respond and I can't blame them.

If Toyota offered a diesel Tundra, i'd consider it.
 

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I have seen them around and know a few people that own Tundras but I've always been one of those hard-headed die hard "if you buy a pickup, it better be 'Murica" kinda guys.
 

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I used to be like that and dismiss any Jap built pickup trucks, but after having a few buddies that own a couple of them, they aren't that bad. Still want me a F-Series though haha
 

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I used to be like that and dismiss any Jap built pickup trucks, but after having a few buddies that own a couple of them, they aren't that bad. Still want me a F-Series though haha
Most North Americans are like that, but once you look at what brands have trucks in other parts of the world, its a big eye opener. All Mercedes, Toyota, Nissan, etc.

But now Ford and other American car makers are expanding so countries on the other side of the world will get a taste of what we have.
 

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You definitely see that as a common thing. But when Ford and Ram and all of them hit the global market, I think it'll be none the different than it is in NA and they'll take it over.
 

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I used to be like that and dismiss any Jap built pickup trucks, but after having a few buddies that own a couple of them, they aren't that bad. Still want me a F-Series though haha
I am a current Tundra owner and have no regrets of my purchase. It’s a great reliable truck with a lot of size and power. The corporate office my not be located in the states, but when I open the driver side door, the sticker says made in USA.
 

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To each their own I guess but the Tundra is one ugly truck, i am a previous Tacoma owner and the japanese do small mid sized trucks well their full size offerings do not appeal to me at all.
 

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The Tundra is a great truck, its just thirsty and lacks the technology and amenities of the new domestic offerings. They also have rust issues up here in Canada where we salt the roads for 6 months of the year.

if you want a truck that just works.. Toyota is hard to beat.
 

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The Tundra is a great truck, its just thirsty and lacks the technology and amenities of the new domestic offerings. They also have rust issues up here in Canada where we salt the roads for 6 months of the year.

if you want a truck that just works.. Toyota is hard to beat.
well said.
 

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Most North Americans are like that, but once you look at what brands have trucks in other parts of the world, its a big eye opener. All Mercedes, Toyota, Nissan, etc.

But now Ford and other American car makers are expanding so countries on the other side of the world will get a taste of what we have.
I just came back from 2 1/2 weeks in France, Germany and Belgium and the only trucks I saw were either Ford Rangers or Toyota Tacomas. And of those two saw more Rangers than Tacomas.
 

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Ford has often been at the top of the truck game but they allowed RAM to get away at being the first to launch a light-duty diesel, which seems to be selling well enough, but as we get closer to the F150 Diesel launch how do you guys think this diesel will perform in terms of sales and in the hands of consumers... compared to the opposition?
I wanted to come back to touch on this subject and get it back on track. I've been watching inventory on these trucks in my area since at least February of this year. Initially I was only watching 2 of my local dealers but after about 4 months of not seeing any of the trucks move I expanded my search and watching and I'm not really seeing very many if any of them move off the lots. Of my local dealers I have only seen one move in that time. Since my expansion to other further away dealers I have not seen any move in at least the last 2-3months.

I mostly started watching to see if I could find a deal on what I want or at least something close so I don't have to order one. And to be honest now I'm really sitting it out to see what happens when Doge and Chevy diesel's start hitting the lots in a few months. I'm hoping that maybe we will see a bigger discount on these trucks. And to be honest maybe the dealers will be more motivated to move them seeing that quite a few of them will have been on their lots for a year or more in some cases. A couple of the dealers are already giving 14k in discounts on XLT's! That is getting them under 40k. The higher trims are not seeing that big of a discount so I'm holding out and I'm not really in a hurry.

What I'm really wondering though is when they all have diesel's on the lots and none of them are moving what will happen to pricing? Ford will be the only one forcing you to buy certain configurations to get one (forced in to higher option packages or trim levels) where the other two are not going to do that. So I guess time will tell but no matter what happens I will most likely get one before the end of the year or sooner depending on the deals and money of course.
 

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I wanted to come back to touch on this subject and get it back on track. I've been watching inventory on these trucks in my area since at least February of this year. Initially I was only watching 2 of my local dealers but after about 4 months of not seeing any of the trucks move I expanded my search and watching and I'm not really seeing very many if any of them move off the lots. Of my local dealers I have only seen one move in that time. Since my expansion to other further away dealers I have not seen any move in at least the last 2-3months.

I mostly started watching to see if I could find a deal on what I want or at least something close so I don't have to order one. And to be honest now I'm really sitting it out to see what happens when Doge and Chevy diesel's start hitting the lots in a few months. I'm hoping that maybe we will see a bigger discount on these trucks. And to be honest maybe the dealers will be more motivated to move them seeing that quite a few of them will have been on their lots for a year or more in some cases. A couple of the dealers are already giving 14k in discounts on XLT's! That is getting them under 40k. The higher trims are not seeing that big of a discount so I'm holding out and I'm not really in a hurry.

What I'm really wondering though is when they all have diesel's on the lots and none of them are moving what will happen to pricing? Ford will be the only one forcing you to buy certain configurations to get one (forced in to higher option packages or trim levels) where the other two are not going to do that. So I guess time will tell but no matter what happens I will most likely get one before the end of the year or sooner depending on the deals and money of course.

You are right they are slow moving could be most people in America still prefer v8 trucks could be waiting to see how the trucks turn out. I know when I bought mine it was on the lot around 4 months, but I also now about Ford Europe. I knew the Lion diesel legendary status in the Land Rover and Jaguar range, and knew that it will be a quality engine in the Ford product. I think they will catch on and loved how they only made the engine in Lariat trim or above for the consuer market. It should make them worth more at resell time but if any hiccup happens along the way similar to what happened to the ecodiesel then you will not be able to give this truck away on the used or new market. I guess we all knew the risks before we bought the powerstroke F150 especially within the first 18 months of production.
 
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