By law they have to supply parts for 10 years minimum. so we should be good for a long time yet.
Hopefully for the next 10 years they will do a better job on parts availability than they have for the last year or so. Of course, all makes and models suffer from parts shortages right now. I was looking at LKQ and it seems you can buy a 3.0 with low mileage for about $8,500.
I couldn't convince my son to go with an F150 diesel - he said he didn't trust Ford to stick with it and instead got a RAM. Wonder if Ford's move is a shadow of others who will stick with the diesels only in their 2/3 series.
I was sad to hear this. Tell your son to get his Ram tuned as soon as possible. Probably one of the Canadian tuners, as the EPA has castrated the best US tuners. My Ram has been great, because it was tuned at 5,000 miles, now 116,000 mi, no thanks to EPA. BTW, wouldn't be surprised if GM drops their 3L Duramax as well, would be too bad.
Our F150s will always be known as trouble free diesels with issues with the EPA mandated changes. The buying public will always be nervous about "new" diesels and Ford spent little time or money letting the public know how rugged these machines are.
I didn't think this was true. They usually do but there is no requirement to do so. I could be mistaken, actually hope I am. I have a 2021 3.0 Powerstroke and am worried that was a mistake. With such a limited run, I wouldn't think there would be many parts even out there. Supply chain disruptions and COVID haven't helped. All in all, I was disappointed to hear the news. I am on hold with Ford at the moment to see if there is any other information though I doubt they will say much. Will update if they do mention anything to note.
Good advice. I am not sure GM will drop their 3.0L so quickly. They spent a bunch of time developing the engine from the ground up, recently added it to the Yukon and Suburban lines, and actually sold almost twice as many 3.0L Diesel trucks in 2020 than Ford (if you add GMC and Chevrolet together) - Ford sold 24,532, GMC 16,762 and Chevrolet Silverado 29,407 or 46,169. Some of these numbers are undoubted impacted for both manufacturers by COVID and the chip shortage, but GM appears to be marketing their motor better and will likely see a boost in sales as those who would have bought the Ford and are not brand loyalists move to GM to get the Duramax.
You may be correct I don't think there's an actual law, and it's more just heresay from random internet people. That said as long as there is a market for parts, they will still get produced, so i wouldn't be worried about running out of filters or belts or anything like that. As long as dealerships are servicing them the main parts should be around. JLR is still using them on the range rover, so hopefully that continues and we can source any odd parts through there. I definitely don't think you made a mistake, as you now have an ultra-rare brand new truck. Your warranty will still be good for the 5 years, so take comfort in that. If something critical breaks, and ford cant fix it.. well.. that's on them and not you, although i don't see that being a thing. These are great little engines, so be happy you got one! if my 18 wasn't still just as good as the day i bought it, I would be putting an order in for a new one myself before the deadline. The new trim with this engine would be awesome.. and now you will be one of the few lucky enough to have one.
You're right, I suspect the GM engine will have a minimum 10 year run if not more until electric can really make a dent. They invested so much into this, and they do seem to be advertising it more as you say. It's also more reasonably priced compared to the fords. I have always been a ford fan, but would likely be one to cross the line over to GM now for my next truck... Although that may not be for a while yet... but i'll go where the diesel is. You just can't compete with the efficiency of them, and I have no need for an HD.
I agree with all but the part where you say JLR is still using them. JLR has started to phase out this motor which is one of the reasons I think Ford is as well. The last year you could get the 3.0L in the Discovery in the states was for the 2020 year. In 2021 you could still get the motor in the full size Range Rover...but I went to the site to look at 2022 models and couldn't find one with the 3.0L engine, doesn't mean they won't add it later, but right now it is not listed. This makes sense as they JLR shifts to their new straight-six InGenium mild hybrid Diesel. The mild hybrid sounds a lot like Ram's e-torque motor line.
Not in the US, but the engine is still being used in a few models in Europe in 2022 and hopefully beyond. Most of the Euro manufacturers, bmw, Mercedes, VW, etc have pulled their diesels from the US market, looks like JLR is following suit.
Yup, getting harder and harder to find in the U.S. For what it is worth the Wiki page I linked to above already shows the Ingenium inline 4 and 6 diesels as the primary JLR diesels with the 3.0L lion motor as their predecessor....so it looks as though if JLR is keeping the diesels in any market they will be using their own motors. Keep an eye on the plant numbers for Ford's Dagenham motor plant where the 3.0L is made....that will show if the motor is still in use with any manufacturer.
