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So I got my truck July 14th ish... drove it around for a week and then noticed a thin puddle in my driveway at the front of the truck, right near drivers front tire... took it to the dealer and they said it was coolant.. but res was full. I then drove some more.. city stuff no biggie. And then parked it for a month while I traveled to europe.

Upon return I find an even larger puddle and returned to the dealer promptly. This time they checked it over thoroughly and found the trans low. So they dyed the system and black lighted it, only to find fluid coming out of bell housing. When they pulled the belly plate and leaned it against the wall it commenced to draining a quart or more onto the floor out of the matting material.

Long story longer.. my 722 mile new 10spd trans ended up on a bench being completely gone through with all serviceable parts, seals and orings being replaced after they found the torque converter oring torn.

Hope my issue helps someone at some point. When I saw the liquid at front tire.. I did not guess trans either.


Now back and 400 miles more under its belt I finally get to really enjoy my diesel.

Thanks for reading.
 

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@BPS_PS - thanks for sharing your experience!

I know from the FSA 18E02 EGR By-Pass valve recall that the lower radiator hose is in that vicinity, so I would have guessed radiator coolant also. Interesting that the matting material just sucked up the leak like a sponge, and the lowest point/hole on that cover must be near the driver's side front tire.

This 10-speed transmission was jointly developed by Ford and GM and being stuck in just about everything RWD these days that Ford is making:
  • 2017- Ford F-150
  • 2018- Ford Mustang
  • 2018- Ford Expedition
  • 2018- Lincoln Navigator
  • 2019- Ford Ranger
  • 2019- Ford Everest
  • 2019- Ford Mustang
I guess when you make a million of these 10-speed transmissions a year just for Ford F150s, you are bound to get one bad O-ring in the lot...

Thanks for the heads-up and I'll know if I see a puddle in that area to investigate beyond just a coolant leak.
 

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Trans Grenaded today.... Was driving down the highway after about 30 minutes all fine and good. We hit some traffic and had to come to a stop.. Went to take off again and trans would not grab a gear. Then at 2k+ on the rev counter it grabbed 1st and shook my fillings loose. went into limp mode and I drove it 20 moles back to the dealership.. by the time it got there it wouldn't even find reverse.
 

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Trans Grenaded today.... Was driving down the highway after about 30 minutes all fine and good. We hit some traffic and had to come to a stop.. Went to take off again and trans would not grab a gear. Then at 2k+ on the rev counter it grabbed 1st and shook my fillings loose. went into limp mode and I drove it 20 moles back to the dealership.. by the time it got there it wouldn't even find reverse.
Yeah I would imagine that you would have to be a really great transmission mechanic to figure out how to put this 10 speed back together. I would probably have demanded them replace the transmission unrvwarranty the first time stead of rebuilding it. Iirc these transmissions are a joint effort between ford and GMC so I would make sure they get me a new one. Who knows maybe your transmission left the plant on a Friday
 

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@BPS_PS - Yikes! Assuming dealer has given you a loaner vehicle and a new transmission will be covered under warranty? Good luck!
 

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Trans Grenaded today.... Was driving down the highway after about 30 minutes all fine and good. We hit some traffic and had to come to a stop.. Went to take off again and trans would not grab a gear. Then at 2k+ on the rev counter it grabbed 1st and shook my fillings loose. went into limp mode and I drove it 20 moles back to the dealership.. by the time it got there it wouldn't even find reverse.
Yeah I would imagine that you would have to be a really great transmission mechanic to figure out how to put this 10 speed back together. I would probably have demanded them replace the transmission unrvwarranty the first time stead of rebuilding it. Iirc these transmissions are a joint effort between ford and GMC so I would make sure they get me a new one. Who knows maybe your transmission left the plant on a Friday
I asked but the service guys said Ford made them repair.. I did ask for a new... This time.. I will be demanding... may make them do tfer case since I am sure the 20 miles and the smells we encountered didn't do it well either.
 

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@BPS_PS - Yikes! Assuming dealer has given you a loaner vehicle and a new transmission will be covered under warranty? Good luck!
Yes.. had a loaner waiting when I arrived.. had the new car manager drive truck to prove my point.. he was the one who couldn't get it to find reverse.
 

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I do love me some Ford trucks but they are Bass tards when it comes to standing behind their products, I own a Subaru, my wife drives a Mazda and I have also owned a Audi. Their ownership is light years beyond anything Ford will ever do which is one reason I bought the extended 100 k mile warranty.

Good luck and do let us know how it goes.

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So after all the fun and games from the previous post. The dealer opened up the trans and found tons of metal shavings of course and said the fluid was molten looking. So the dealer put in a new trans. Have had the truck back now a few days, much better performance out of the trans. I now know what it was supposed to. Hopefully this is last update... oh.. and of course the buyback was denied .. let's see if they will try to take care of me when I talk to them again next week.
 

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@BPS_PS good luck with your truck performing without any issues going forward, but at least that extended warranty should give you piece of mind; although, I wonder how that would get refunded during a buy-back or transferred over to a new replacement truck.

My truck will turn over 20,000 miles by the end of the weekend, and the only issues I have had are the standard recall items (EGR, engine block heater cord) as well as I've noticed my massaging seats seem to possibly not be behaving as they should in that the massage seems to time out in 5 minutes or less now instead of 15 minutes. I had my doubts over the longevity of the massaging seats working properly, and could be a driver for me purchasing an extended warranty before I hit the 30,000 mile mark.

Thanks for keeping us all updated with the situation on your truck, and again, wishing you all the best for trouble free ownership moving forward.
 

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@BPS_PS - good to hear Ford stepped-up-to-the-plate and replaced the entire transmission (as they should have the first time around)

The Service Manager at my dealership has nothing but good things to say about the new 10-speed transmission jointly developed with GM = hardly any issues, so maybe you just got a bad one from the factory...

Good luck with your truck and keep us posted if anything pops up on this front!
 

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Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.... after all the fun... the replacement unit started making noise... Shifting rough in lower gears.. and sounding like a chain skipping gears or dragging on concrete... After 2 weeks in the shop Ford Finally owned up and is now putting transmission 3... yes 3... in my truck.. 5900 miles and has not even had an oil change yet.. and 3 transmissions .. And of course.. No Buyback approved.. So I get to keep paying them for the privilege of driving this turd.. If I try to sell it or trade it in I will lose my @$$ ... So this is my happy face <insert annoyed meme face here> writing the next monthly payment on a truck I am beginning to loath..



I really thought this would be the last truck I ever wanted or needed to buy...



Anyone want to pay full price for my 6k miles... 1 owner... All maintenance records*cough*... mint condition*cough*, with some upgrades 2019 PowerStroke Lariat trans killing machine.??



Willing to trade straight up for a 2020 Ram 1500 EcoDiesel equally equipped.. LOL


SEE.. I am Loosing it.. I said I would own a Ram... After close to 25 Fords I have owned... this is my current thought process... WTH is wrong with me.. Oh yea.. the Loyalty factor is only from us to them.. Not vice versa..



Hmmm... maybe I should unload my Ford Stock... at least I will get some money from Ford that way ...



Rant over.. sorry... needed to vent, and Wife is over me whining to her.
 

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Just guessing but it sounds like you meet Virginia's lemon law:
How do I know if my vehicle's a lemon?
If you have tried unsuccessfully to have your new vehicle (purchased in Virginia) repaired three or more times for the same problem, or the vehicle has been out of service for more than thirty days in one year, your vehicle may be classified as a lemon under the Virginia Motor Vehicle Warranty Enforcement Act.
I have been through this in FL. They almost always deny a voluntary buyback. Anyway, in my case I just filed with the Better Business Bureau and Ford responded with a buyback offer. I think you will have to do this before you can get the state attorney general involved.

Anyway, good luck on whatever happens- you don't deserve this problem.
 

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Just guessing but it sounds like you meet Virginia's lemon law:

I have been through this in FL. They almost always deny a voluntary buyback. Anyway, in my case I just filed with the Better Business Bureau and Ford responded with a buyback offer. I think you will have to do this before you can get the state attorney general involved.

Anyway, good luck on whatever happens- you don't deserve this problem.
I agree.. and have already been looking at doing just this after I get back from my Christmas trip... Reading VA's rules for lemon and buyback, I will need to Hand Write a letter and have it delivered to the Company. What an Archaic way yo handle this situation. Maybe BBB will be an option....??? ?..
 
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