What is your payload capacity?

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Gradymaci

Discussion Starter · Dec 26, 2019

Let me know your capacity.. It's on the door jam sticker..Was Shocked to know how much lower it was compared to the gassers.

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KR2018

· #2 · Dec 26, 2019

Gradymaci said:
Let me know your capacity.. It's on the door jam sticker..Was Shocked to know how much lower it was compared to the gassers.

Mine is 1215 lbs. but that is a little confusing because my GVWR is 7050 lbs.

That is the sum of my vehicle (5085) plus cargo weight (1215) plus five passengers at avg. of 150 total of (750) which equals the GVWR of 7050 lbs.

So if I am in my truck alone (200 lbs) do I add (600 lbs) to my cargo capacity so now the Cargo capacity is (1815 lbs).

I would think it would increase or decrease accordingly.

KR2018

Gradymaci

Discussion Starter · #3 · Dec 26, 2019 (Edited)

The King Ranch package is Higher than a XLT so the weight goes down....None of the Stickers makes since, I think they randomly just stick them in.My Capacity is 1380#s..

KR2018

· #4 · Dec 26, 2019

Yes. King Ranch FX 4x4

KR2018

jmperlik

· #5 · Dec 26, 2019

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@Gradymaci - here are pics of the door jamb stickers from my 2018 F150 Platinum w/FX4 package -- hope these help

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Gradymaci

Discussion Starter · #6 · Dec 26, 2019

jmperlik said:
@Gradymaci - here are pics of the door jamb stickers from my 2018 F150 Platinum w/FX4 package -- hope these help

1084#s..That what I'm been saying..
These Diesel's cannot tow any normal Travel Trailer do to the limitations of the capacity.
I have been messing with mine for a month, and added a Equalizer WDH also Billstein 4600 shocks and still it's a little sketchy.
My TT is only 25" total and a dry weight of 5160#.
If I towed more that once a month I would not buy it, but since most my driving is not towing, I love it due to the MPG's.

jmperlik

· #7 · Dec 27, 2019

Strongly recommend reading thru: 2019 Ford F150 Towing Guide
- Max Towing and Max payload for any 3.0L Diesel on Page 1:

=> (Best possible) Max Towing: 11,500 lbs
=> (Best possible) Max Payload: 2,020 lbs

- 3.0L Turbo Diesel V6 (bottom) section of Maximum Loaded Trailer Weight table for F-150 Conventional Towing on Page 2:

=> Worst Max Loaded Trailer Weight: 10,100 lbs (4x2 or 4x4 SuperCrew w/either WB)
=> Best Max Loaded Trailer Weight: 11,500 lbs (4x2 Supercab w/145" WB)
=> You will need to find the cab/trim level/wheelbase for your truck in the table for correct value for your vehicle

- Hitch Receiver Weight Capacity on Page 6:

=> Weight-Carrying Max Trailer Capacity: 5,000 lbs w/500 lbs Max Tongue weight
=> Weight-Distributing Max Trailer Capacity: 13,200 lbs w/1320 lbs Max Tongue weight

You can find the tow formulas in: Spec’ing F-series Trucks for Towing
1.) Determine Trailer and Trailer Contents Weight

a.) Should not exceed Max Loaded Trailer Weight above
b.) Calculates Tongue Weight (used in Payload calculation in #2)

2.) Determine the Total Payload Weight

a.) Total Payload Weight = People + Cargo + Options + Tongue Weight (#1b) + Hitch Weight
b.) Should not exceed Max Payload Weight from "Tire and Loading Info" door jamb sticker

3.) Determine the Gross Vehicle Weight

a.) Gross Vehicle Weight (GVW) = Base Curb Weight + Payload Weight (#2)
b.) GVW should not exceed GVWR from door jamb sticker

4.) Determine the Gross Combination Weight

a.) Gross Combination Weight (GCW) = GVW (#3) + Total Trailer Weight (#1)
b.) GCW should not exceed GCWR from 1st column of 3.0L Turbo Diesel V6 (bottom) section of Maximum Loaded Trailer Weight table for F-150 Conventional Towing on Page 2 of F150 Towing Guide above

My takeaways:
1.) Max Payload does fall off pretty quickly as move up in Trim level/packages/options (Max 2020 lbs payload vs 1084 lbs payload for my 2018 Platinum FX4)
2.) I'm OK trailering my small 2500 lb TLB (Tractor Loader Backhoe) in my 7'x16' dual axle enclosed trailer (<5000 lb Total Trailer Weight)
3.) Anything above this should be using a Weight-Distributing Hitch due to Hitch Receiver Weight Capacity
4.) I would be getting my calculator out if I was purchasing an F150 Diesel to tow a travel trailer or anything larger than what I have now

I'm not passing judgement for or against but just providing information for anyone who wants to figure things out for their situation...

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apezz

· #8 · Dec 28, 2019

I had similar concerns and questions when I saw my Tire and Loading Information sticker. The Ford marketing is very well done on their part. For instance my truck (3.0 Diesel, 4x2, 145”wheelbase ,Supercab) can tow or pull 11,400 lbs. However according to my Tire and Loading Information sticker my cargo carrying capacity is only 1697 lbs. Which seems to be more than most, probably because I have a supercab and only 2 wheel drive which lightens my truck a bit. But even then, if you’re towing a trailer with a 900 lbs hitch weight you don’t have much room left for friends and cargo. You would think an aluminum body truck would gain you a lot of cargo carrying capacity but I think you lose a lot of that advantage because the diesel engine is so heavy.
Doing the math I was confused with the cargo carrying capacity of only 1697 lbs but the truck GVWR of 7050 lbs. This didn’t add up. So I wrote this letter to Ford and asked:

My Dealer told me the shipping weight of my truck was 4790 lbs. He said this is with maybe 2 gallons of fuel in the tank.
So for the curb weight of the vehicle I added 24 more gallons of diesel for a total of 168 lbs. This would make the Curb Weight of the vehicle 4958 lbs.
My door jamb sticker (below) says the vehicle GVWR is 7050 lbs.
This would leave me with a Cargo Capacity of 2092 lbs

My question is, why does the Tire and Loading Information sticker on the door jamb say: “The combined weight of the occupants and cargo should never exceed 1697 lbs”

Ford sent me back the attached letter with their explanation. I hope this helps anyone wondering. I think we have a bit more wiggle room for towing.

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Gradymaci

Discussion Starter · #9 · Dec 28, 2019

apezz said:
I had similar concerns and questions when I saw my Tire and Loading Information sticker. The Ford marketing is very well done on their part. For instance my truck (3.0 Diesel, 4x2, 145”wheelbase ,Supercab) can tow or pull 11,400 lbs. However according to my Tire and Loading Information sticker my cargo carrying capacity is only 1697 lbs. Which seems to be more than most, probably because I have a supercab and only 2 wheel drive which lightens my truck a bit. But even then, if you’re towing a trailer with a 900 lbs hitch weight you don’t have much room left for friends and cargo. You would think an aluminum body truck would gain you a lot of cargo carrying capacity but I think you lose a lot of that advantage because the diesel engine is so heavy.
Doing the math I was confused with the cargo carrying capacity of only 1697 lbs but the truck GVWR of 7050 lbs. This didn’t add up. So I wrote this letter to Ford and asked:

My Dealer told me the shipping weight of my truck was 4790 lbs. He said this is with maybe 2 gallons of fuel in the tank.
So for the curb weight of the vehicle I added 24 more gallons of diesel for a total of 168 lbs. This would make the Curb Weight of the vehicle 4958 lbs.
My door jamb sticker (below) says the vehicle GVWR is 7050 lbs.
This would leave me with a Cargo Capacity of 2092 lbs

My question is, why does the Tire and Loading Information sticker on the door jamb say: “The combined weight of the occupants and cargo should never exceed 1697 lbs”

Ford sent me back the attached letter with their explanation. I hope this helps anyone wondering. I think we have a bit more wiggle room for towing.

So my Short bed 4x4 weight on the CAT scales was 5960#s
Seems to be alot for 4x4 but I guess the transfer case and Xtra drive shaft is heavy.

apezz

· #10 · Dec 30, 2019

That's a thousand pounds more. That does sound like a lot. I'm thinking you may also have other options that I don't. Or maybe you had some cargo on board when you had it weighed?

Gradymaci

Discussion Starter · #11 · Dec 31, 2019

apezz said:
That's a thousand pounds more. That does sound like a lot. I'm thinking you may also have other options that I don't. Or maybe you had
some cargo on board when you had it weighed?

My 60# son and a half tank of fuel.
Only option is a moon roof.

Tortuga41

· #12 · Jan 2, 2020

2018 F-150 4x4 SCREW
145" wheelbase
FX4

Just picked this up on Christmas Eve.

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Gradymaci

Discussion Starter · #13 · Jan 2, 2020

Tortuga41 said:
2018 F-150 4x4 SCREW
145" wheelbase
FX4

Just picked this up on Christmas Eve.

What's the payload, it will the yellow sticker..

Rdkeith99

· #14 · Jan 2, 2020

Gradymaci said:
Let me know your capacity.. It's on the door jam sticker..Was Shocked to know how much lower it was compared to the gassers.

My door sticker says 1402 lbs: 2018 F150 3.0L diesel Lariat FX4.

Gradymaci

Discussion Starter · #15 · Jan 3, 2020

Rdkeith99 said:
Gradymaci said:

Let me know your capacity.. It's on the door jam sticker..Was Shocked to know how much lower it was compared to the gassers.

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My door sticker says 1402 lbs: 2018 F150 3.0L diesel Lariat FX4.

Do you have the moon roof?
I'm surprised that the payload is a 100#s more than mine with the Trim package
I'm assuming 4x4..

jswinner

· #16 · Jan 9, 2020

The fleet guide lists the different option weights

https://fordbbas.com/publication

DieselSupercrew

· #17 · May 21, 2020

2019 lariatt 500a Supercrew 6.5 bed

GCVW #7100
PAYLOAD #1650
GAWR Front #3750
GAWR Rear #3800

chiefdave

· #18 · Dec 24, 2020

My 2020 XLT 302A 157" 4x4 sticker reads 1471 which seems in line with everyone else. I'm thinking the engineers provide one number that is cut down by the lawyers. The planes I flew in the Navy had a max gross weight of 135,000# but that got bumped up to 144,000# in wartime and there was no special inspections when operating at the increased gross weight.

Dunrollin

· #19 · Dec 24, 2020

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Great point, Chief. I owned a few panthers (Crown Vics or Grand Marquis) over the years and watched the towing capacity drop from 5,000 pounds to 2,000 pounds. Those of us on the internet were trying to figure out what changed and the best we could determine was it was a marketing decision from Ford to push customers to a pickup. Who knows? I can say I watched the tow ratings drop during years that no component changes occured.

The specs seem "engineered" so I accept them. Here are two historical views of the F150 over the years:

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