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Let me know your capacity.. It's on the door jam sticker..Was Shocked to know how much lower it was compared to the gassers.
 

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Let me know your capacity.. It's on the door jam sticker..Was Shocked to know how much lower it was compared to the gassers.
Mine is 1215 lbs. but that is a little confusing because my GVWR is 7050 lbs.

That is the sum of my vehicle (5085) plus cargo weight (1215) plus five passengers at avg. of 150 total of (750) which equals the GVWR of 7050 lbs.

So if I am in my truck alone (200 lbs) do I add (600 lbs) to my cargo capacity so now the Cargo capacity is (1815 lbs).

I would think it would increase or decrease accordingly.

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The King Ranch package is Higher than a XLT so the weight goes down....None of the Stickers makes since, I think they randomly just stick them in.My Capacity is 1380#s..
 

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@Gradymaci - here are pics of the door jamb stickers from my 2018 F150 Platinum w/FX4 package -- hope these help
 

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@Gradymaci - here are pics of the door jamb stickers from my 2018 F150 Platinum w/FX4 package -- hope these help
1084#s..That what I'm been saying..
These Diesel's cannot tow any normal Travel Trailer do to the limitations of the capacity.
I have been messing with mine for a month, and added a Equalizer WDH also Billstein 4600 shocks and still it's a little sketchy.
My TT is only 25" total and a dry weight of 5160#.
If I towed more that once a month I would not buy it, but since most my driving is not towing, I love it due to the MPG's.
 

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Strongly recommend reading thru: 2019 Ford F150 Towing Guide
- Max Towing and Max payload for any 3.0L Diesel on Page 1:
=> (Best possible) Max Towing: 11,500 lbs
=> (Best possible) Max Payload: 2,020 lbs​
- 3.0L Turbo Diesel V6 (bottom) section of Maximum Loaded Trailer Weight table for F-150 Conventional Towing on Page 2:
=> Worst Max Loaded Trailer Weight: 10,100 lbs (4x2 or 4x4 SuperCrew w/either WB)
=> Best Max Loaded Trailer Weight: 11,500 lbs (4x2 Supercab w/145" WB)
=> You will need to find the cab/trim level/wheelbase for your truck in the table for correct value for your vehicle​
- Hitch Receiver Weight Capacity on Page 6:
=> Weight-Carrying Max Trailer Capacity: 5,000 lbs w/500 lbs Max Tongue weight
=> Weight-Distributing Max Trailer Capacity: 13,200 lbs w/1320 lbs Max Tongue weight​

You can find the tow formulas in: Spec’ing F-series Trucks for Towing
1.) Determine Trailer and Trailer Contents Weight
a.) Should not exceed Max Loaded Trailer Weight above
b.) Calculates Tongue Weight (used in Payload calculation in #2)​
2.) Determine the Total Payload Weight
a.) Total Payload Weight = People + Cargo + Options + Tongue Weight (#1b) + Hitch Weight
b.) Should not exceed Max Payload Weight from "Tire and Loading Info" door jamb sticker​
3.) Determine the Gross Vehicle Weight
a.) Gross Vehicle Weight (GVW) = Base Curb Weight + Payload Weight (#2)
b.) GVW should not exceed GVWR from door jamb sticker​
4.) Determine the Gross Combination Weight
a.) Gross Combination Weight (GCW) = GVW (#3) + Total Trailer Weight (#1)
b.) GCW should not exceed GCWR from 1st column of 3.0L Turbo Diesel V6 (bottom) section of Maximum Loaded Trailer Weight table for F-150 Conventional Towing on Page 2 of F150 Towing Guide above​

My takeaways:
1.) Max Payload does fall off pretty quickly as move up in Trim level/packages/options (Max 2020 lbs payload vs 1084 lbs payload for my 2018 Platinum FX4)
2.) I'm OK trailering my small 2500 lb TLB (Tractor Loader Backhoe) in my 7'x16' dual axle enclosed trailer (<5000 lb Total Trailer Weight)
3.) Anything above this should be using a Weight-Distributing Hitch due to Hitch Receiver Weight Capacity
4.) I would be getting my calculator out if I was purchasing an F150 Diesel to tow a travel trailer or anything larger than what I have now

I'm not passing judgement for or against but just providing information for anyone who wants to figure things out for their situation...
 

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I had similar concerns and questions when I saw my Tire and Loading Information sticker. The Ford marketing is very well done on their part. For instance my truck (3.0 Diesel, 4x2, 145”wheelbase ,Supercab) can tow or pull 11,400 lbs. However according to my Tire and Loading Information sticker my cargo carrying capacity is only 1697 lbs. Which seems to be more than most, probably because I have a supercab and only 2 wheel drive which lightens my truck a bit. But even then, if you’re towing a trailer with a 900 lbs hitch weight you don’t have much room left for friends and cargo. You would think an aluminum body truck would gain you a lot of cargo carrying capacity but I think you lose a lot of that advantage because the diesel engine is so heavy.
Doing the math I was confused with the cargo carrying capacity of only 1697 lbs but the truck GVWR of 7050 lbs. This didn’t add up. So I wrote this letter to Ford and asked:

My Dealer told me the shipping weight of my truck was 4790 lbs. He said this is with maybe 2 gallons of fuel in the tank.
So for the curb weight of the vehicle I added 24 more gallons of diesel for a total of 168 lbs. This would make the Curb Weight of the vehicle 4958 lbs.
My door jamb sticker (below) says the vehicle GVWR is 7050 lbs.
This would leave me with a Cargo Capacity of 2092 lbs

My question is, why does the Tire and Loading Information sticker on the door jamb say: “The combined weight of the occupants and cargo should never exceed 1697 lbs”

Ford sent me back the attached letter with their explanation. I hope this helps anyone wondering. I think we have a bit more wiggle room for towing.
 

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I had similar concerns and questions when I saw my Tire and Loading Information sticker. The Ford marketing is very well done on their part. For instance my truck (3.0 Diesel, 4x2, 145”wheelbase ,Supercab) can tow or pull 11,400 lbs. However according to my Tire and Loading Information sticker my cargo carrying capacity is only 1697 lbs. Which seems to be more than most, probably because I have a supercab and only 2 wheel drive which lightens my truck a bit. But even then, if you’re towing a trailer with a 900 lbs hitch weight you don’t have much room left for friends and cargo. You would think an aluminum body truck would gain you a lot of cargo carrying capacity but I think you lose a lot of that advantage because the diesel engine is so heavy.
Doing the math I was confused with the cargo carrying capacity of only 1697 lbs but the truck GVWR of 7050 lbs. This didn’t add up. So I wrote this letter to Ford and asked:

My Dealer told me the shipping weight of my truck was 4790 lbs. He said this is with maybe 2 gallons of fuel in the tank.
So for the curb weight of the vehicle I added 24 more gallons of diesel for a total of 168 lbs. This would make the Curb Weight of the vehicle 4958 lbs.
My door jamb sticker (below) says the vehicle GVWR is 7050 lbs.
This would leave me with a Cargo Capacity of 2092 lbs

My question is, why does the Tire and Loading Information sticker on the door jamb say: “The combined weight of the occupants and cargo should never exceed 1697 lbs”

Ford sent me back the attached letter with their explanation. I hope this helps anyone wondering. I think we have a bit more wiggle room for towing.
So my Short bed 4x4 weight on the CAT scales was 5960#s
Seems to be alot for 4x4 but I guess the transfer case and Xtra drive shaft is heavy.
 

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That's a thousand pounds more. That does sound like a lot. I'm thinking you may also have other options that I don't. Or maybe you had some cargo on board when you had it weighed?
 

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That's a thousand pounds more. That does sound like a lot. I'm thinking you may also have other options that I don't. Or maybe you had
some cargo on board when you had it weighed?
My 60# son and a half tank of fuel.
Only option is a moon roof.
 

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Let me know your capacity.. It's on the door jam sticker..Was Shocked to know how much lower it was compared to the gassers.
My door sticker says 1402 lbs: 2018 F150 3.0L diesel Lariat FX4.
Do you have the moon roof?
I'm surprised that the payload is a 100#s more than mine with the Trim package
I'm assuming 4x4..
 
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