[fharrison]

Mine is still in the shop for p2457 and p0234 codes. I think they had the Ford engineer out. No updates lately. Over a month in the shop now.

 

[jevalek77]

Sorry, but I'm confused. How would a screw get into the oil? The valve is in the exhaust gas re-circulation system, so where the valve screws are located oil pressure lubed? I think a much greater chance of either being sucked into the compression chamber and with any luck out the exhaust or has had happened into the pistons and valves doing damage?

I literally think about the lost crew in my engine every day! I was told from ford that it likely went out an exhaust valve. I doubt that seriously, I'm betting that screw is larger than the exhaust valve clearance. I've seen pictures of these screws pounded into the tops of pistons. Based on the engine knocking that I experienced that slowly went away on its own, I'm betting that's where mine is. Probably wont give me any issues until I'm pulling a fish house, 3 miles out onto a lake, temps tickling -40 F, 3am, with no cell phone service. Or the day after my warranty expires. I've had my compression checked twice since this happen and both came back at 375psi per cylinder, 0% variation, at least that's what I'm told. So unfortunate, I absolutely love this truck but its going to be untrustworthy until this screw turns up.

 

[Laytunes]

That would certainly be unnerving... If somehow it made it past the exhaust, and through your turbo without causing damage to either (unlikely), you'd surely find it sitting upstream of your DOC. Maybe you can get under there and give it a shake? or pop it off and take a look inside. I doubt you will find it there tough.

In my opinion the most likely scenario is that it was still in or near the EGR valve, and it fell out and down when they took everything apart. If it made its way into a cylinder and bounced around in there enough to cause knocking, there certainly would have been valve damage, and you would see that in your compression test. If somehow it got pounded into a piston, I bet there would be a balancing issue that you would notice as a vibration in the engine. For peace of mind however, maybe get a second opinion on the compression test at an independent shop, and if if you really want to know, find someone to borescope the pistons to see if any of them show signs of damage... even if it was pounded into the head somewhere, you would see damage on the piston. If that comes back clean, you're likely good to go! If you're still worried after that... have the dealer give you a good deal on a trade in haha. Good luck!

 

[duan0501]

P245B EGR Engine Code

I took my truck on a long fishing trip last week. I filled it up with fuel and DEF today and when I put it in park in my driveway, it through a CEL: P245B. It seems to be running well and I didn't notice any issues. Has anyone experienced this? I'll be setting up an appointment with the dealership soon.


Appreciate any feedback others may have!

 

[wreedsvt]

I took my truck on a long fishing trip last week. I filled it up with fuel and DEF today and when I put it in park in my driveway, it through a CEL: P245B. It seems to be running well and I didn't notice any issues. Has anyone experienced this? I'll be setting up an appointment with the dealership soon.


Appreciate any feedback others may have!

Definitely setup appt with dealer. I would also check connections to EGR under the hood. Be sure to post back what dealer says.

As your truck is a 2019 it should not be a issue with the EGR screw that could potentially fall out, should be all good there.

 

[duan0501]

Was able to get the truck into the dealership today. They stated on the phone the EGR Cooler went bad and they are replacing it. Should have the part in tomorrow. Are there any questions I should be asking them about this?

 

[duan0501]

Well, bad news from the dealer... My truck must've slipped through the assembly line with the old EGR cooler installed. I've never been made aware of a recall by mail or via the FordPass app. When the dealer took it apart, there was one missing screw, which hasn't been found.



The dealer claims that Ford told them to run certain tests and if it passes, to release the truck back to me. I'm of course very frustrated by this as the missing screw likely made it's way through the cylinder head and out the turbo... I'm working with the dealer I purchased the truck from (4 hours away) to see if there is any more they can do to communicate with Ford directly.

 

[jmperlik]

@duan0501 - sorry to hear about your missing EGR By-pass valve screw, as this is the first I have heard of a 2019 model year being impacted.

If you haven't found this yet, here is the sticky thread for: START HERE: Any owners affected by FSA 18E02 (EGR By-pass valve replacement)
=> I recommend that you post on this sticky thread to get your vehicle added to "the list"
=> Or if you like I can merge this thread into that master sticky thread
Either way I will add you and your vehicle to the "Wounded Bretheren" spreadsheet of affected owners

I would be very interested if this was indeed any original/faulty EGR By-pass valve or the newer/re-designed EGR By-pass valve, but I'm not sure if the dealer would be able to provide that info, as your vehicle was not part of the FSA 18E02 recall. It would be scary if this was indeed the newer redesigned valve...

 

[wreedsvt]

duan,

What is the build date of your truck?

 

[duan0501]

The truck was built on February 4, 2019. If you can merge this thread to that one, I'd greatly appreciate it!

 

[wreedsvt]

Wow the Recall sheet on the EGR issue says trucks built after October 20 2018 should not be affected.

 

[jmperlik]

@fharrison - any updates on your P2457 and P0234 codes?

 

[jmperlik]

FordF150FSA18E02 "Wounded Brethren" spreadsheet (as of 07/05/19)

Current status as of 07/05/19:

 

[fharrison]

@fharrison - any updates on your P2457 and P0234 codes?

Sorry, didn't update. So truck was in shop over a month. They replaced the egr and still had an overboost problem. Replaced turbo, and that fixed overboost problem but it was really loud. So they replaced it again and it seems to be running good now. I guess a pin in the vgt actuator came loose. They then had an exhaust gas leak at the back of turbo donut connection. I still think it is leaking a little but barely. I hate donut connections. Have them on my snowmobile and you can never seal them without some kind of gasket maker. I might do a little sealer on the connection myself. Little nervous about any excess on the inside getting in the dpf. Running good now though.

 

[duan0501]

A couple additional updates from the dealer that performed the EGR Assembly replacement. The assembly they replaced was P/N: JL3Z 9U438A. They replaced this with P/N: JL3Z 9U438B. This leads me to believe my truck somehow slipped through the assembly line, build date of February 4, 2019 (confirmed by Ford representative), with the recalled assembly.



I've created a case number with Ford as well as NHTSA and will continue to update as this progresses...

 

[jmperlik]

@duan0501 - thanks for posting back with the specific before and after part numbers, as I think you have confirmed my suspicion...

A couple additional updates from the dealer that performed the EGR Assembly replacement. The assembly they replaced was P/N: JL3Z 9U438A. They replaced this with P/N: JL3Z 9U438B. This leads me to believe my truck somehow slipped through the assembly line, build date of February 4, 2019 (confirmed by Ford representative), with the recalled assembly.

Original Ford Part numbers do not end in a letter, but Ford does use a letter suffix to indicate a part revision/supersede. How do I know this? Anyone else have issues with the needle bearings in the Front Wheel assembly on a Lariat or above trim level with AWD? I did once on my 2015 Ford F150 Platinum and my buddy at work just purchased a 2019 F150 because he went thru four (4) wheel assemblies on his 2016 F150 Lariat due to the noisy needle bearing. Last I checked, Ford was up to the "H" version of the Front Wheel assembly before I traded in my 2015 F150 Platinum.

Why am I going on and on about these revision suffixes? => Check out the part number on the 6th attachment in the original FSA 18E02 recall documentation that @wreedsvt posted here in this thread: Post #122 that I have attached and highlighted in yellow here: P/N: JL3Z 9U438A

@duan0501 just had his EGR By-pass valve replaced with P/N: JL3Z 9U438B
=> This tells me that @duan0501's truck came off the assembly line with the correct replacement P/N JL3Z 9U438A (P/N listed in the recall) at the time of manufacture
=> @duan0501's truck with the replacement part P/N JL3Z 9U438A just suffered an ingested EGR By-pass valve screw
=> This also seems to indicate to me that the replacement part we all got as part of FSA 18E02 suffers from the same problem as the original part; otherwise why is there a "B" version?
=> This will be the 1st question for my Service Manager when I bring my truck in on 07/11/19 for my FORScan code B148E - Front Camera issue

Here we go again...

 

[Dunrollin]

OK! I am all done finally. As you all may remember Ford agreed to buy my Blue Jean 3.0 Lariat and I turned it in to a dealer up north on May 30. I was promised everything would go quickly after that.

Flash forward to today. I never heard anything back on my check (it was a pretty big check) so finally I asked the BBB to reopen the case. Today BBB called and my check has been about a mile from my house for the last 20 days. It was at the local Ford dealer but no one informed me.

Anyway, still enjoying my new 2018 Platinum. And now, back to retirement.

 

[jmperlik]

Flash forward to today. I never heard anything back on my check (it was a pretty big check) so finally I asked the BBB to reopen the case. Today BBB called and my check has been about a mile from my house for the last 20 days. It was at the local Ford dealer but no one informed me.

Anyway, still enjoying my new 2018 Platinum. And now, back to retirement.

@Dunrollin - glad to hear everything finally worked out and you got an upgrade in the end. Not sure why the dealer sat on your check for 3 weeks, as that doesn't help anyone and causes more ill will.

Now let's see what I can find out today about this P/N: JL3Z 9U438A vs P/N: JL3Z 9U438B for the EGR By-pass valve...

 

[wreedsvt]

Here is EGR part info from fordpartsgiant.com does look like B replaced A, I am wondering if B is a update for something other than the screw. I find it hard to believe Ford would screw up that big.

 

[wreedsvt]

This post shows the new and old part, but he does not reference any part numbers.

https://www.dieself150forum.com/for...m/490-3-0l-v6-diesel/1742-fsa-18e02-egr-pass-valve-replacement-6.html#post18548