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Good grief! Sorry brother, that sucks

 

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Amen, my teenage son would have done a better job hands down.



At least you have some photos to go by. Oil tube bracket goes on first to EGR with bolt and studded bolt, then the fuel line bracket. I have studied it, unfortunately, for a month. Bottom stud bolt holds small exhaust tube to block FYI, it is the other stud that holds the fuel line bracket.


I too have more photos of a brand new pickup and hands on knowledge if you need help.

 

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Any insight as to why these get omitted by some mechanics? How much disassembly did you have to do to get it done? Great news, congratulations.

To save time. Only 3-1/2 hours given by Ford. It was a challenge to do it right since I didn't take it apart to begin with.

 

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What do these brackets look like?

This is the bottom: https://parts.ford.com/shop/en/us/bracket-fuel-tube-support-8342123-1


There are no pics of the top, but it attaches to the engine oil dipstick.

 

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I am beyond fed up. This is simply malpractice. If these brackets didn't matter I doubt Ford would have put them there.


Yes, none of my brackets were bolted, all wiring harness hanging with all broken clips, and 2 brackets missing entirely!

 

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This is a bummer. I have leads (today in fact) on a new 2018 3.0 with under 1000 miles, dealer demonstrator, great price...BUT, it has not had this EGR update. I am very disappointed at the thought of new truck having to be disassembled, or worse yet, the screw(s) have already been swallowed!

 

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Amen, get this all behind us and keep on truckin'

 

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They had the parts in by 8:30 this morning so I was able to see them today. That is a burn mark between the screwheads from the spot welding process, Pic 1. On the backside where the screw goes through the shaft, They have spot welded the bottom of screws to the shaft, Pic 2.
It looks like a acceptable permanent fix in my mind. 😄
Now if you have a good mechanic, all should be good!

Nice, thanks. I wish I looked at my new valve to make sure it was the improved version! :crying:

 

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Update from me... waiting on parts 26th will be 30 days in the shop💩. I will try to get info for report.

Nationwide back order Ford says on their parts site. UGH

 

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I was told by my dealer that the new part has the screws welded in so that they can't back out.

I hope so. Imagine installing a "new old stock" valve found on some dealer's shelf only to have it fail 4000 miles later? I've dealt with many Parts Departments and some have been really incompetent.

 

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Ford should have just run the screws all the way through the shaft and staked the end, no more screws coming out...old school sometimes is best

 

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I wish I would have looked at the new one. Maybe they put Loctite on the screws? We will see I guess!

 

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Looks like a great job! I often wonder what the difference in the new EGR and old one are? They look identical.



Thanks for the pics!

 

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My original had a green paint marker stripe across the valve and on the cooler, like someone had a magic marker marking them as they went down the assembly line.

 

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I dont think they even messed with those brackets on mine. I think they replaced it without having to touch them.

You just had a good mechanic! :wink2:

 

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Dunrolinn it looks like the oil dipstick bracket is gone?



Mine was missing the fuel bracket you still have (BTW that bracket is not listed in Ford catalog--they robbed it off a truck that swallowed a screw and awaiting new engine!). I have the part number stamped on that fuel bracket.



I didn't study the dipstick but thought that bracket was part of the dipstick tube? Is the dipstick still solidly mounted?

 

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Last bracket done today:grin2:! Upper fuel line bracket now installed, one month later, all complete.

 

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What I don't understand is why this EGR By-pass valve should be any different than the one in the 3.0L "Lion" Diesel engine that Jaguar and Land Rover have been using for the past 6+ years in Europe = Ford US must have re-designed this part (for whatever reason) and didn't understand the concept of vibration...

Please keep us informed of Ford's action plan for your vehicle.

I am not sure Ford wants the 3.0 to survive. Strange to say, but efficient diesels are not promoted in USA like they are in overseas markets. Why not offer the baby diesel to general public in XL-XLT lineup, not just Fleet only? I only bought mine because the price was reduced $10K.


Looking at the EGR they took out of my truck, why in heck didn't Ford run the screws completely through the shaft and stake the screw's threads like they did for almost a century on carburetors (for same reason to prevent screws from backing out)? Like I said, seems like it was set up to fail.

 

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I just took my unit in at about 4500 miles for the first oil change, 18E02, and 18N04.

After a couple of days (they had to order an extra gasket, I was told), they have come back and said that I was missing one of the screws on the valve in the EGR unit. They're now awaiting instructions from Ford on what to do now.

To their credit, they proactively gave me (without asking) a loaner from the very beginning. Of course, now I'm worried that the engine has to be pulled, or, at the very least, the top end disassembled.

UGH!!!!

that is terrible news. There was a pickup with 4000 miles in the shop that did mine it too had swallowed a screw. It lost compression in #4 cylinder and will likely get a new engine.



Stupid me, I did get to see the old valve, which had both screws, but did not ask to see the new valve. Parts Department said it was the new number listed on the recall, but I should have looked at the new valves screws to make sure it was indeed different.



Oh well, it is all covered under warranty, just my peace of mind suffers

 

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My parts came from 3 places as well. If you look on OEM Ford Parts the EGR says "backordered" so they must be coming off the assembly lines at this point.