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FSA 18E02: EGR By-pass valve replacement

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#1 ·
Anyone else have this recall show up today in their FordPass app?

Field Service Action Number: 18E02

FSA Title: EXHAUST GAS RECIRCULATION BY-PASS VALVE REPLACEMENT

Last Updated: 01/25/19

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#186 ·
I dont think they even messed with those brackets on mine. I think they replaced it without having to touch them.
 
#189 ·
Is there a way to tell from looking at the valve if the recall has actually been performed? I just bought the truck and the dealer said that they would get that done for me next day so I could take it home, however I can't see any evidence under the hood that anything was ever worked on, (i.e. the bolts all look new with no scratches, I can't see evidence anywhere of any coolant anywhere, all brackets and clips in factory condition, etc.) Being brand new it's pretty hard to tell if it's been swapped, but the speed in which they got the truck ready is suspicious, so either I had a really good mechanic that cleaned everything up tip top and didn't make any slips of the wrench during the process, or they didn't do it at all.

The only evidence I have I guess is that the recall doesn't show up in my ford pass app. should I get another shop to confirm, or just trust em that they did it and get truckin'.

Really glad I found this forum, good info on these engines seems pretty scarce!
 
#190 ·
Laytunes,

What year/date was the truck manufactured?
 
#191 ·
@Laytunes - ask your dealership's Service Manager for a full OASIS report on your VIN:
=> If they performed the FSA, it will be listed as completed
=> If they FSA hasn't been performed, they should not be selling you the vehicle and the FSA will be listed as OPEN on the OASIS report for your VIN

I wouldn't sign any paperwork until they provide you with the OASIS report for your VIN
 
#192 ·
Also if built after Oct 20, 18 it supposedly was fixed at the factory.
 
#195 ·
Took mine in for recall in Feb, drove a loaner for almost 3 weeks before the parts came in. All was fixed without issue but now I am going to check and see if I am missing parts like some of you guys. I never would have thought anyone could get away with not putting things back to factory installed and missing parts. I really hope that’s just an anomaly.

Truck had 9000 miles on it when I took it in for a recall, just an FYI. Made in July 18
 
#196 ·
OK, mine is back at the dealer. Daily it has been hesitating and light bucking but no code. Today it bucked violently and jerked for about a block then MIL came on with 2 warnings- reduced engine power and turbo is deactivated.

Codes are P259E TURBO BOOST PRESSURE LOW
P042E EGR CONTROL STUCK OPEN

Also when I shut it off it continued to click loudly and made a squeal noise, both stopped when I pulled the wire connector off the top of the EGR valve.

Interestingly in well over a half century of vehicle ownership this has been my most problematic vehicle with 5 dealer visits in the first 1,695 miles. (except for the used cop car I bought at auction LOL) . I will advise on the outcome but it may be a while as they are waiting until morning to diagnose it so they can start it up cold.
 
#198 ·
Honestly I don't know what to say, other than that's not good. Sounds to me like either dirty fuel filters, or your motor ingested metal. I am going to go with the ladder. I am sorry man. Keep us posted.
 
#200 ·
@Dunrolin - I know you had your FSA done because you have been posting very helpful video(s)

So you are saying you are having these issues after you had your FSA performed?

These new symptoms and codes don't sound any good and @codywroberts@gmail.com just said his threw he same codes prior to his requiring a short block rebuild.

Did your Service Department provide you status as to what they found when they did the FSA? Did they find/show your the old part with both screws intact?

I don't wish this on anyone, but it sure sounds like you are heading down the same path as @codywroberts@gmail.com with one or both screws being sucked into the engine.
 
#201 ·
Thanks, just one day at a time.

Hoping for good news soon. A brief recap, I took it in originally for the EGR valve recall, no symptoms at all. 4 days and a lot of arguing and I got it back but what a mess! Took it back and they had it 2 days- when I picked it up AC had quit. 2 ore days and it was mine again. I looked and all seemed well. Only later did I realize many of my original complaints about their work were still present. No desire to return there so I went to next town over and got the PCM reflash recall done and as I was passing by the original EGR dealer it all happened.

They never discussed if the old valve had problems or anything.

Now the good part. On March 28, next Thursday, we leave for WV for 6 months. I still have my trusty old 2013 F150 so the trip is still on regardless.
 
#203 ·
Does anyone have updates on this recall. My 2018 3.0L just had the light come on at 9,000 miles and appears to have a knocking noise coming from the engine. It just went to the dealership today.
That does not sound good, seems like we have another victim. I am sorry :(
 
#205 · (Edited)
Alright, this has officially become a little too crazy for me...

@kdjasper and I have been PMing about all of this, since he did a really nice post earlier on in this thread with a summary of all affected owners that we know about from new members who have chimed in with status of their truck on this thread.

I took the time to scour thru this thread to find all affected owners to date and stuck them in a spreadsheet attached below

I plan to create a new thread for just for owners with affected vehicles only to report their date/mileage/codes and we can keep the banter & opinions contained in this thread.

@kdjasper is going to talk to the forum administrator to see if we can get the new report thread made to be "sticky" that stays on the top of the 3.0L V6 Diesel forum.

Any affected owners who want to "fill-in-the-blanks" for missing info or correct anything wrong/incorrect in my spreadsheet, please PM me or respond back on this thread:
  • I think everyone here will appreciate if affected owners post ANY codes that show up so we can build a knowledge base here
  • Looks like the first symptom is the EGR cooler CEL which indicates the bypass valve is not working and you probably lost a screw
  • If you get P259E (TURBO BOOST PRESSURE LOW) or P042E (EGR CONTROL STUCK OPEN), then you may be on your way to engine bucking & eventual engine failure
I will try to keep this spreadsheet up-to-date as new affected owners report in.

Thanks in advance to everyone.
 

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#240 ·
I can make your new thread a sticky if you want.
 
#206 ·
Just got the check engine light last Friday. Was hoping it might be something other than this... unfortunately it started knocking this morning, literally on the way to the dealership! Worst part is I had it in the shop two weeks ago and asked them to take care of the recalls. They told me not to worry about the 18E02 recall unless the light came on.
 
#241 ·
Quick update... My truck has been at the shop since last Thursday (3/21/19). I have called every day to see if there is an ETA on replacement parts. The service manager said they have had these parts on order since the first week in February and should be there any day. I have contacted other local dealerships and all say they could have the parts overnighted if needed. Yes, I could grab my truck and bring it to another dealer. However, I have a loaner now and the other dealerships don't have loaners available for a week or two. Plus I'm afraid to drive the truck and potentially cause more damage.
 
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#208 · (Edited)
@jevalek77 - my personal opinion is that your dealership's service department is either a.) bunch of morons or b.) being told by Ford US to stall because they don't have an adequate supply chain for all of the pieces in the EGR By-pass valve FSA kit and/or 3.0L diesel crate engines.

This is turning into a huge PR black eye for Ford's #1 selling vehicle with this brand new engine option.

Not sure about other owners, but I own exactly one (1) and only (1) vehicle: My 2018 Ford F150 Diesel Platinum, so I don't have the luxury of a another vehicle in the household or a backup truck, as other members do. I would not be very happy if Ford knew this issue existed and then told you to come back when the Check Engine light comes on...

Regardless, I do wish you luck and hope that you don't need a new engine, but your symptoms are becoming all too familiar with the trend in this thread...
 
#209 ·
I am going to go with A.
 
#210 ·
Updated with additional info from @Dunrollin (who told me that he is definitely Dun Rollin' now!)
 

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#211 ·
@jmperlik nice job on putting this spreadsheet together.

I have a few additional attributes I would like to see added to the spreadsheet:

- truck build date
- truck build plant (e.g., Dearborn)
- truck trim line (i.e., Lariat, King Ranch, Platinum)

We know that there is supposed to be a specific build date range where the EGR is an issue, so capturing truck build date in the spreadsheet will allow us to see if trucks are getting EGR issues outside of the recall build date range.

Are all these F150 diesels assembled in the Dearborn plant (for example)? Capturing this will let us know that. Are F150 diesels only assembled in the Dearborn plant?

Capturing the trim line info will allow us to see if there is a pattern of a specific trim line having most of the issues.

Thanks for taking the lead on this!
 
#214 ·
Mine says Born in Dearborn on the windshield.
 
#212 ·
So my Lariat 3.0L visited the dealership today for its EGR By Pass replacement. Good News, both screws were still in place. My wife spent the entire day there, was treated awesome by the service department and was updated all day with the progress. PitMan Ford in Guelph ON did a fantastic job. I can’t tell that anything under the hood was touched. Looks completely factory. No missing brackets, loose lines or any coolant in sight. I’ve posted some pictures they took for us during the day.
 

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#215 ·
On the new EGR, looks like a weld burned in between each screw, could that be it? Crazy how instead of reenginnering the part with better screws, etc...., that do not back out to being with, they just add a weld! Anyone else seeing this?
 
#217 ·
Probably just torqued down more, to the unlucky ones, they will fall out again. lol :|:crying: